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Old 05-28-2011, 01:36 PM
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I did a leakdown test. The engine was cold and no oil was put into the cylinders before the test. Here are the results:

#1 : 9%
#2 : 15%
#3 : 9%
#4 : 21%
#5 : 6%
#6 : 16%
#7 : 8%
#8 : 8%

The test was conducted using 100 psi and was repeated twice with pretty much the same results.

I plan on warming the engine up and repeating the leakdown test on warm engine.
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Old 05-28-2011, 07:04 PM
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That's a lot of difference from the left bank to the right. Do you have file fit rings or Z gaps. If they are file fit it will decrease on the leak down when warm, but it's the big difference that concerns me. Maybe 6 to 8% with file fit COLD, should be the limit, unless you're running a blown/ supercharged engine.

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Old 05-29-2011, 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by zipper06
That's a lot of difference from the left bank to the right. Do you have file fit rings or Z gaps. If they are file fit it will decrease on the leak down when warm, but it's the big difference that concerns me. Maybe 6 to 8% with file fit COLD, should be the limit, unless you're running a blown/ supercharged engine.

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The rings are file fit and the engine is natural aspirated.
It was the bank with the least leakdown that blued the headers. Could the two facts be connected?
I have a feeling that this new engine is going to have to be opened up again. Now I have to find a good BBC guy in my area. Crap!!
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Old 05-29-2011, 06:35 AM
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Before you pull it down do a cold compression check, then a hot compression check, it could be a lot of factors, too much piston to wall clearance, rings not properly file fit. I'm thinking that the rings may be wiped out and possible cylinders scored from way too rich. A well sealed cylinder will definately run hotter than a cylinder with a lot of blow by.

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Old 05-29-2011, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by zipper06
Before you pull it down do a cold compression check, then a hot compression check, it could be a lot of factors, too much piston to wall clearance, rings not properly file fit. I'm thinking that the rings may be wiped out and possible cylinders scored from way too rich. A well sealed cylinder will definately run hotter than a cylinder with a lot of blow by.

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Thanks Zipper.
I will run another cold test and a couple of hot ones tomorrow and post the results. I am concerned that the overly rich conditins may have washed oil off the cylinder walls and lead to some scoring or ring damage.
When the engine was fresh and run on the dyno, without the vacuum pump, there seemed to be a lot of pressure in the crankcase. I had leaks from the pan gasket, rear seal and intake gaskets.
Your statement about the tighter cylinders running hotter makes a lot of sense.
BTW, all cylinders seemed to be leaking to the crankcase only. I couldn't detect any intake, exhaust or head gasket leaks.
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Old 05-30-2011, 07:32 PM
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Hot leakdown test was even worse. Pulled engine and sent it the engine builder to be checked out.
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Old 05-30-2011, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by kod99
Hot leakdown test was even worse. Pulled engine and sent it the engine builder to be checked out.
Smart move, before you ran it again.

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Old 05-31-2011, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by zipper06
Originally Posted by kod99
Hot leakdown test was even worse. Pulled engine and sent it the engine builder to be checked out.
Smart move, before you ran it again.

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I do learn....it just takes me a while.
I'm gonna put on a 0 1/2 pump, 80 pill and 39 nozzles and tune from there.
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Old 05-31-2011, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by kod99
Originally Posted by zipper06
Originally Posted by kod99
Hot leakdown test was even worse. Pulled engine and sent it the engine builder to be checked out.
Smart move, before you ran it again.

JMO

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I do learn....it just takes me a while.
I'm gonna put on a 0 1/2 pump, 80 pill and 39 nozzles and tune from there.
:wink:
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Old 06-01-2011, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by kod99
Originally Posted by zipper06
Originally Posted by kod99
Hot leakdown test was even worse. Pulled engine and sent it the engine builder to be checked out.
Smart move, before you ran it again.

JMO

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I do learn....it just takes me a while.
I'm gonna put on a 0 1/2 pump, 80 pill and 39 nozzles and tune from there.
I Can HOOK you up with ALL of those PARTS,INCLUDING a Nice T-2 Terminator and a Primer +.Just Posted the Whole System,in the Classifieds.
Hope things are NOT to bad,and maybe a Finish Hone and a set of Rings.....?
Later
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