BEWARE: Bill Schiano will renege and can't be trusted.
02-04-2011, 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by brentmccoy
Wow, I have not been on here in a few days and the discussion exploded.
First, if anyone thinks I did not lose any money over this they are ignorant of the facts. It's easy to say move on when it's not your time and money wasted. This forum is here to identify those who waste our time and money. Bill did not give me his address to be pen pals, he gave it to me to find his house to pick up the car. Anybody that comes on here and says there was not a deal, is ignorant of the facts or has a habit of telling lies. If Bill is really sorry, a check for $275.00 which is a small amount of what I had invsted would go a long ways in showing he means what he says. When a deal is made and you boast that you are a man of your word and your word is your bond (bills own words), then you renege with just three days left, you better expect some flack! When a person talks big but doesn't follow it up with actions, they are called a blow hard around here. We will see if he is just talk or is he truely sorry.
Thanks, Brent
First, if anyone thinks I did not lose any money over this they are ignorant of the facts. It's easy to say move on when it's not your time and money wasted. This forum is here to identify those who waste our time and money. Bill did not give me his address to be pen pals, he gave it to me to find his house to pick up the car. Anybody that comes on here and says there was not a deal, is ignorant of the facts or has a habit of telling lies. If Bill is really sorry, a check for $275.00 which is a small amount of what I had invsted would go a long ways in showing he means what he says. When a deal is made and you boast that you are a man of your word and your word is your bond (bills own words), then you renege with just three days left, you better expect some flack! When a person talks big but doesn't follow it up with actions, they are called a blow hard around here. We will see if he is just talk or is he truely sorry.
Thanks, Brent
I know your upset. I don't want to seem like I am making fun. But blow hard I have not heard that for years. :lol: Hope it works out for you.
02-04-2011, 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by brentmccoy
Wow, I have not been on here in a few days and the discussion exploded.
First, if anyone thinks I did not lose any money over this they are ignorant of the facts. It's easy to say move on when it's not your time and money wasted. This forum is here to identify those who waste our time and money. Bill did not give me his address to be pen pals, he gave it to me to find his house to pick up the car. Anybody that comes on here and says there was not a deal, is ignorant of the facts or has a habit of telling lies. If Bill is really sorry, a check for $275.00 which is a small amount of what I had invsted would go a long ways in showing he means what he says. When a deal is made and you boast that you are a man of your word and your word is your bond (bills own words), then you renege with just three days left, you better expect some flack! When a person talks big but doesn't follow it up with actions, they are called a blow hard around here. We will see if he is just talk or is he truely sorry.
Thanks, Brent
First, if anyone thinks I did not lose any money over this they are ignorant of the facts. It's easy to say move on when it's not your time and money wasted. This forum is here to identify those who waste our time and money. Bill did not give me his address to be pen pals, he gave it to me to find his house to pick up the car. Anybody that comes on here and says there was not a deal, is ignorant of the facts or has a habit of telling lies. If Bill is really sorry, a check for $275.00 which is a small amount of what I had invsted would go a long ways in showing he means what he says. When a deal is made and you boast that you are a man of your word and your word is your bond (bills own words), then you renege with just three days left, you better expect some flack! When a person talks big but doesn't follow it up with actions, they are called a blow hard around here. We will see if he is just talk or is he truely sorry.
Thanks, Brent
Sad is what this thread is.
02-04-2011, 06:50 AM
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I agree Rabbit, I quess my question is did the seller even know the buyer was cancelling his trip to come buy the car? But, it really doesnt matter, no deposits were made, no money traded hands, nothing was put into writing and its just basically he said, he said. Its unfortunate this day and age a mans word is NOT a binding contract but such is life. Stick a fork in this one, I think its done...
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02-04-2011, 01:43 PM
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Agreed Harb... not sure w/ Wabbit on a few points... not willing to let this go yet though (not quite yet).
They are not buying a contractual investment such as a home... where THE SELLER WOULD LOOSE HIS DEPOSIT over being a FLAKE like this!!! There is a difference. This is why in Real Estate it is called an "Earnest Money Agreement"... whereby you LOOSE it for flaky behavior like this case. man, this deal should not need an Escrow, Title company, formal deposit, lawyers, etc.... THE BUYER DECIDED TO SELL A CAR.
We are talking about 2 basic people who had a agreement. YOU should not need a bunch of protection clauses to protect each party... it was a "good ol boy agreement" where a deal is a deal. So: it is okay to back out with no regard to the buyer???? If you are going to be flaky, DON'T SELL. DON'T WASTE MY TIME.
The seller was "ready, willing & able" to purchase the car which WAS ON THE MARKET. Buyer did nothing wrong. He got jacked around by Mr. FLAKE who we should not just let off the hook that easy!!! If the seller is really sorry, then he should PAY THE BUYER FOR HIS LOSS.
Wabbit: you know I love ya. You my boy. Agree to disagree on this one.
They are not buying a contractual investment such as a home... where THE SELLER WOULD LOOSE HIS DEPOSIT over being a FLAKE like this!!! There is a difference. This is why in Real Estate it is called an "Earnest Money Agreement"... whereby you LOOSE it for flaky behavior like this case. man, this deal should not need an Escrow, Title company, formal deposit, lawyers, etc.... THE BUYER DECIDED TO SELL A CAR.
We are talking about 2 basic people who had a agreement. YOU should not need a bunch of protection clauses to protect each party... it was a "good ol boy agreement" where a deal is a deal. So: it is okay to back out with no regard to the buyer???? If you are going to be flaky, DON'T SELL. DON'T WASTE MY TIME.
The seller was "ready, willing & able" to purchase the car which WAS ON THE MARKET. Buyer did nothing wrong. He got jacked around by Mr. FLAKE who we should not just let off the hook that easy!!! If the seller is really sorry, then he should PAY THE BUYER FOR HIS LOSS.
Wabbit: you know I love ya. You my boy. Agree to disagree on this one.
02-04-2011, 02:23 PM
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Scooter, this is what I based my decision on. You never have to worry about me and you not agreeing on something. That's just a part of being friends.
We're in this together.
He gave the guys 3 days notice. It's not like he showed up to his house and then he said Whoops, I changed my mind last week.
Airfare and a canceled trip is not the sellers fault. Those expense we just a part of the buyers cost of this deal. If he had gone to look at the car and said he didn't like it who's expenses are they? Still the buyers. It doesn't matter if it's around the corner or 1,000 miles away the buyer is the one that has to go look at the vehicle (unless agreements are made by the two parties). I don't take the buyers side just because he is the one out of money or a canceled trip. He knew those were on his table when he began this deal.
We're in this together.
The following is my reply after he reneged on deal for me to buy his
'55 chevy rolling, with only 3 days before I was to picked it up.
I cancelled a ski trip and had airfare and other expenses.
'55 chevy rolling, with only 3 days before I was to picked it up.
I cancelled a ski trip and had airfare and other expenses.
Airfare and a canceled trip is not the sellers fault. Those expense we just a part of the buyers cost of this deal. If he had gone to look at the car and said he didn't like it who's expenses are they? Still the buyers. It doesn't matter if it's around the corner or 1,000 miles away the buyer is the one that has to go look at the vehicle (unless agreements are made by the two parties). I don't take the buyers side just because he is the one out of money or a canceled trip. He knew those were on his table when he began this deal.
02-04-2011, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by TheRabbit
Scooter, this is what I based my decision on. You never have to worry about me and you not agreeing on something. That's just a part of being friends.
We're in this together.
Agreed... good man. For some reason, this one bugs me though. I mean, if it were you and doing this, I feel like the deal would happen. A solid decision to sell & a solid choice to buy. There would be no backing out... because our word is all we really have at the end of the day. You would not sell until you are ready, I would not buy unless I could make an accepted offer... then it would be DONE. I hear these stories on here all too often. Maybe I am naive... perhaps a hand-shake is foolish now days. Anyways, have an AWESOME week-end; I have to go home to a kid w/ an ear-infection & my wife has the flu, so better get outta here. Talk to you later!!
He gave the guys 3 days notice. It's not like he showed up to his house and then he said Whoops, I changed my mind last week.
Airfare and a canceled trip is not the sellers fault. Those expense we just a part of the buyers cost of this deal. If he had gone to look at the car and said he didn't like it who's expenses are they? Still the buyers. It doesn't matter if it's around the corner or 1,000 miles away the buyer is the one that has to go look at the vehicle (unless agreements are made by the two parties). I don't take the buyers side just because he is the one out of money or a canceled trip. He knew those were on his table when he began this deal.
We're in this together.
Agreed... good man. For some reason, this one bugs me though. I mean, if it were you and doing this, I feel like the deal would happen. A solid decision to sell & a solid choice to buy. There would be no backing out... because our word is all we really have at the end of the day. You would not sell until you are ready, I would not buy unless I could make an accepted offer... then it would be DONE. I hear these stories on here all too often. Maybe I am naive... perhaps a hand-shake is foolish now days. Anyways, have an AWESOME week-end; I have to go home to a kid w/ an ear-infection & my wife has the flu, so better get outta here. Talk to you later!!
The following is my reply after he reneged on deal for me to buy his
'55 chevy rolling, with only 3 days before I was to picked it up.
I cancelled a ski trip and had airfare and other expenses.
'55 chevy rolling, with only 3 days before I was to picked it up.
I cancelled a ski trip and had airfare and other expenses.
Airfare and a canceled trip is not the sellers fault. Those expense we just a part of the buyers cost of this deal. If he had gone to look at the car and said he didn't like it who's expenses are they? Still the buyers. It doesn't matter if it's around the corner or 1,000 miles away the buyer is the one that has to go look at the vehicle (unless agreements are made by the two parties). I don't take the buyers side just because he is the one out of money or a canceled trip. He knew those were on his table when he began this deal.
02-04-2011, 05:35 PM
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Scooter, First I hope you get the family back to being healty real quick.
You are right, if I said it was a deal then it would be yours even if I decided I really didn't want to do it. I would ask that if you ever sell it to please give me first option to buy. I usually am the one that takes the losses instead of getting over over somebody. If I were the buyer in this case I would understand and would not think I got scammed. I would just think it was another good deal I lost out on. Not, I want the seller to pay me for a lost vacation and plane ticket because he didn't sell.
It was a bad decision to agree to sell as a roller and even the seller said that, but I'm not gonna call him a scammer for that.
The question here is, is he a scammer or not? He had no intent to commit fraud and he called the guy 3 days before. He tried to do the right thing so IMO, he is not a scammer for changing his mind.
JMO, but in this case I would rather do business with the seller than the buyer of this thread.
You are right, if I said it was a deal then it would be yours even if I decided I really didn't want to do it. I would ask that if you ever sell it to please give me first option to buy. I usually am the one that takes the losses instead of getting over over somebody. If I were the buyer in this case I would understand and would not think I got scammed. I would just think it was another good deal I lost out on. Not, I want the seller to pay me for a lost vacation and plane ticket because he didn't sell.
It was a bad decision to agree to sell as a roller and even the seller said that, but I'm not gonna call him a scammer for that.
The question here is, is he a scammer or not? He had no intent to commit fraud and he called the guy 3 days before. He tried to do the right thing so IMO, he is not a scammer for changing his mind.
JMO, but in this case I would rather do business with the seller than the buyer of this thread.
02-08-2011, 11:03 PM
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Its great to see more posts, it keeps Bills name at the top.
This post is doing what it should, it is identifying those who think it is OK to renege on a deal and that your word means nothing. It seems that some did not read that it was Bills choice not to take the deposit that I offered, he said there was no need since I was going to be there to pick up the car the next week and he knew I had made arrangements.
We made the deal and I payed for airfare and missed a ski trip based on his word. His same word that he boasted about being his bond. I'm not upset about not getting the car, hell I really own too many as it is.
I'm irritated about his arrogance of his character and then because of his
LACK OF CHARACTER I missed my ski trip and spent money on a flight that was not needed. People like Bill need to be called out on forums like this to make them think twice about their actions. Not only did his negligence affect me but also the gentleman that took time off to drive
the truck and trailer. Bill did not conduct his bussiness with integrity, he reneged because of plain old greed. Those that think it is OK to renege on a deal and cost someone money, you are a big part of the problem with
internet sales. Some on here have shown that they set their standards higher and their word does mean something and those are the ones I would do bussiness with. These posts help identify which kind of person you are. Thanks
This post is doing what it should, it is identifying those who think it is OK to renege on a deal and that your word means nothing. It seems that some did not read that it was Bills choice not to take the deposit that I offered, he said there was no need since I was going to be there to pick up the car the next week and he knew I had made arrangements.
We made the deal and I payed for airfare and missed a ski trip based on his word. His same word that he boasted about being his bond. I'm not upset about not getting the car, hell I really own too many as it is.
I'm irritated about his arrogance of his character and then because of his
LACK OF CHARACTER I missed my ski trip and spent money on a flight that was not needed. People like Bill need to be called out on forums like this to make them think twice about their actions. Not only did his negligence affect me but also the gentleman that took time off to drive
the truck and trailer. Bill did not conduct his bussiness with integrity, he reneged because of plain old greed. Those that think it is OK to renege on a deal and cost someone money, you are a big part of the problem with
internet sales. Some on here have shown that they set their standards higher and their word does mean something and those are the ones I would do bussiness with. These posts help identify which kind of person you are. Thanks
02-09-2011, 11:01 AM
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ok heres my only post here its pre sell remorse seller was on fence about parting out an old friend and gave a 72hr notice that he changed his mind. now legally from what i know most states have a 72 hr "cool down period" so legally he did no wrong. now back in dec i had my firebird traded but after arranging truck and trailer (mark) he backed out with a lame excuse about it being his sons. now me and mark were out time and i rearranged family stuff now do i tell this guy he owes me for all that? nope its the nature of the beast trades go bad. with 3 days still could have went on his vacation imo just pissy cause he couldnt pressure him into a sell he didnt wanna make