Scammer traderguy (#36188)
12-26-2008, 09:33 AM
#31
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Guys i am from Greenup Ky and i have dealed with traderguy and have known him ever since school, He has never done me wrong i'm sure that the trade that you say might have been bad but don't any of guy's ever research a car before you trade? (look at pic's,ask q's, or call the guy)then when you meet the person don't YOU have the right to say NO.
And there is nobody that can't tell me at 1 time or another that you have not told the whole truth about your trade because if you did you would be bashing your own ride and there is none that are perfect just very nice ones.EVERYBODY DOES WRONG! EVERYBODY!
And as far as driving so far to make a trade i would have not stsrted going until the other person was and talk to them atleast every hour on the cell or i would turn around and go back, if i was willing to drive for 600 miles and no answer i would drive the rest to get it done and meet the person.
So if any of you fill like you got BURNT then it's your own FAULT.
AND 1 THING IS FORSURE IF ANYBODY WAS TO MAKE A THRET OF ME OR OF MY FAMILY ESPECIALY ONLINE THEN THEY WOULD NEED TO BACK IT UP BECAUSE SOMEONE WOULD DEFF. BE SHOWING UP AT SOMEONES DOORSTEP!!!
I'm sorry if i affended anyone but man thats childish if you make a trade then sometimes your the bug and sometimes your the windshield!
And for the honer roll i payed my membership and only have made even trades. just incase anbody wants to bash on me! MY NAME IS TOM!
And there is nobody that can't tell me at 1 time or another that you have not told the whole truth about your trade because if you did you would be bashing your own ride and there is none that are perfect just very nice ones.EVERYBODY DOES WRONG! EVERYBODY!
And as far as driving so far to make a trade i would have not stsrted going until the other person was and talk to them atleast every hour on the cell or i would turn around and go back, if i was willing to drive for 600 miles and no answer i would drive the rest to get it done and meet the person.
So if any of you fill like you got BURNT then it's your own FAULT.
AND 1 THING IS FORSURE IF ANYBODY WAS TO MAKE A THRET OF ME OR OF MY FAMILY ESPECIALY ONLINE THEN THEY WOULD NEED TO BACK IT UP BECAUSE SOMEONE WOULD DEFF. BE SHOWING UP AT SOMEONES DOORSTEP!!!
I'm sorry if i affended anyone but man thats childish if you make a trade then sometimes your the bug and sometimes your the windshield!
And for the honer roll i payed my membership and only have made even trades. just incase anbody wants to bash on me! MY NAME IS TOM!
12-26-2008, 09:43 AM
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:roll: :roll: Now let's see, this thread started in august, and now we have a one poster in december, praiseing traderguy. HMMMMMMMMMMMM anyone smelling a rat other than me? :lol: :lol: :lol:
12-26-2008, 02:30 PM
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First the important stuff:
Zipper,
Thanks my friend, I have no problems nor ill will towards you at all. I think you are a good man and appreciate your usually excellent posts. :shock: :lol: :lol:
Later,
Rudy
Secondary stuff:
Tom,
Just to let you know, I have never, ever laid squarley on Keith the blame for the sour deal. I have chewed myself out numerous times for letting my personal security net drop when dealing with your smooth talking, lying through his teeth, no honor, well you get the picture, friend. I will be more than happy to disclose the details of our transaction if Keith will come in here and answer the numerous complaints lodged against him. If you are such a long time friend, then why don't you convince him to come in here? Hell, the conman won't even answer emails, much less defend his integrity.
How about it Tom, can you get him in here? If you do, be sure to read the thread about him, I am willing to bet you will find out more than you really know about your "friend".
I have no problems with you Tom, but you know what they say "guilt by association makes you look bad".
Should you need to be bashed, you are in the right place!
My name is Rudy!!
Zipper,
Thanks my friend, I have no problems nor ill will towards you at all. I think you are a good man and appreciate your usually excellent posts. :shock: :lol: :lol:
Later,
Rudy
Secondary stuff:
Tom,
Just to let you know, I have never, ever laid squarley on Keith the blame for the sour deal. I have chewed myself out numerous times for letting my personal security net drop when dealing with your smooth talking, lying through his teeth, no honor, well you get the picture, friend. I will be more than happy to disclose the details of our transaction if Keith will come in here and answer the numerous complaints lodged against him. If you are such a long time friend, then why don't you convince him to come in here? Hell, the conman won't even answer emails, much less defend his integrity.
How about it Tom, can you get him in here? If you do, be sure to read the thread about him, I am willing to bet you will find out more than you really know about your "friend".
I have no problems with you Tom, but you know what they say "guilt by association makes you look bad".
Should you need to be bashed, you are in the right place!
My name is Rudy!!
12-26-2008, 03:18 PM
#34
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MAN ! This site is a MAGNET for the lower life forms in the car culture. I'm amazed that RJ hasn't worked up some sort of recommendation, rating system ala eBay.
I've also observed how the real loud whiners do NOT 'READ' nor comprehend the original post/s before ripping into someone. Course, I see that all over the web no matter WHAT the subject matter.
Human behavior is very interesting and entertaining when observed with an open, thinking mind.
I've also observed how the real loud whiners do NOT 'READ' nor comprehend the original post/s before ripping into someone. Course, I see that all over the web no matter WHAT the subject matter.
Human behavior is very interesting and entertaining when observed with an open, thinking mind.
12-26-2008, 07:40 PM
#35
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I'm no rat and my heart does not pump chicken shit either!
I was just telling the truth if you trade then you are as much to blame as the next if you make a bad 1.
When i get a bad 1 i take my lumps and go on with my life.
But i have never threatend someones family over a trade i just don't deal with them anymore. I also can understand if you would get upset but point the blame at yourself first, nobody ever says (boy was'nt i a dumbass for trading on this car) it's always the other guys fault.
And anykind of a friend would take up for the other, that does'nt mean that i'm a bad guy I just think that it's wrong to bash someones family over you making a stupid trading decision, thats just my opinion.
I was just telling the truth if you trade then you are as much to blame as the next if you make a bad 1.
When i get a bad 1 i take my lumps and go on with my life.
But i have never threatend someones family over a trade i just don't deal with them anymore. I also can understand if you would get upset but point the blame at yourself first, nobody ever says (boy was'nt i a dumbass for trading on this car) it's always the other guys fault.
And anykind of a friend would take up for the other, that does'nt mean that i'm a bad guy I just think that it's wrong to bash someones family over you making a stupid trading decision, thats just my opinion.
12-26-2008, 08:07 PM
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[quote="hollowayshotrods"]
Tom,
If you think that statement was a threat, you have misunderstood the statement. Thieves, conmen, liars, etc., you know, like Keith the traderguy of Ashland ,KY., they should think about the peril they put their families in by being a crook. Although I would never do anything to put my family in dire straits for being stupid (like kicking the shit outa Keith), I do not doubt that there are folks that would KILL for alot less than the $6 or $7 grand your "friend" cheated me and my family out of. If you can't get Keith in here then he must not be a great friend. Be sure to tell him I said he is a liar and a thief. Remember what I said about guilt by association Tom! When he refuses to come in here, remind him that YOU came in here and took up for him. When he still refuses to come in here, I would certainly wonder why a man won't defend himself.
BTW, we really appreciate the lesson in trading. I am sure not one person knows that they are partially to blame when a deal goes sour. That doesn't give someone a ticket to lie, such as your friend, Keith the traderguy did. I am guessing you will be sitting on your cars for awhile Tom, you really should not have associated yourself with this guy, guilt by association!! Remember that when you try to work your deals Tom.
Good luck getting Keithyboy in here.
Originally Posted by bigray
Hummmmmm>>>> and still has never made a HONOR payment.i guess he never sell's or trades anything. just post's his add's for the heck of it !!!!!!!![/quote
I think a person must be HONORABLE to make an honor payment. Keithyboy (aka traderguy) doesn't have ANY honor, so I think it is right in line for him to not make an honor payment, it doesn't make it right, but it is in line with his character traits.
One thing that really stands out to me though about all scammers. They must not think about the safety of their famalies to put them in peril by constantly living with the fear someone is going to show up at their doorstep with a whole lotta ass whoopin with them, or worse.
I think a person must be HONORABLE to make an honor payment. Keithyboy (aka traderguy) doesn't have ANY honor, so I think it is right in line for him to not make an honor payment, it doesn't make it right, but it is in line with his character traits.
One thing that really stands out to me though about all scammers. They must not think about the safety of their famalies to put them in peril by constantly living with the fear someone is going to show up at their doorstep with a whole lotta ass whoopin with them, or worse.
If you think that statement was a threat, you have misunderstood the statement. Thieves, conmen, liars, etc., you know, like Keith the traderguy of Ashland ,KY., they should think about the peril they put their families in by being a crook. Although I would never do anything to put my family in dire straits for being stupid (like kicking the shit outa Keith), I do not doubt that there are folks that would KILL for alot less than the $6 or $7 grand your "friend" cheated me and my family out of. If you can't get Keith in here then he must not be a great friend. Be sure to tell him I said he is a liar and a thief. Remember what I said about guilt by association Tom! When he refuses to come in here, remind him that YOU came in here and took up for him. When he still refuses to come in here, I would certainly wonder why a man won't defend himself.
BTW, we really appreciate the lesson in trading. I am sure not one person knows that they are partially to blame when a deal goes sour. That doesn't give someone a ticket to lie, such as your friend, Keith the traderguy did. I am guessing you will be sitting on your cars for awhile Tom, you really should not have associated yourself with this guy, guilt by association!! Remember that when you try to work your deals Tom.
Good luck getting Keithyboy in here.
12-27-2008, 07:25 AM
#37
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hollowayshotrods
I must have misinterpeted the meaning of showing up at someones house and there family's life being in danger, but don't you think that if i did someone else would also? I mean talk about breakin the law, do you relize buy saying that if something was to happen you would be first on the list for the law to contact? I would be pissed also if i had made a bad deal but i also like to watch what i say so that i can and will be able to trade again weather i make a good trade or a bad 1. I did not mean to insult anybody but when i see anybody that is someone i know being threated i WILL stand up for them if they have never done me any wrong, and that i'm sure everybody on here at some point in time has knowing or not knowing.
As far as my cars go i don't care if they sell or not i do this for a hobby i do not need the money that bad I just love the cars(all of them)!
My cars people can see for thereself if they like them or not i do not care there mine. and i have a few! anyways peace. Tom
I must have misinterpeted the meaning of showing up at someones house and there family's life being in danger, but don't you think that if i did someone else would also? I mean talk about breakin the law, do you relize buy saying that if something was to happen you would be first on the list for the law to contact? I would be pissed also if i had made a bad deal but i also like to watch what i say so that i can and will be able to trade again weather i make a good trade or a bad 1. I did not mean to insult anybody but when i see anybody that is someone i know being threated i WILL stand up for them if they have never done me any wrong, and that i'm sure everybody on here at some point in time has knowing or not knowing.
As far as my cars go i don't care if they sell or not i do this for a hobby i do not need the money that bad I just love the cars(all of them)!
My cars people can see for thereself if they like them or not i do not care there mine. and i have a few! anyways peace. Tom
12-27-2008, 09:02 AM
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Tom,
I completely understand about what you are saying about your relationship with Keith. I dare say we all know someone that we like and possibly trust that has had their integrity questioned. At no time did I take anything you said as an insult, you have approached this subject respectfully. I know for a fact that Keith lied to me about the vehicle I received from him, but, without Keith coming in to defend himself, I am keeping the details in check. It does however, involve a 1972 Vega and
a John Deere 790 4wd tractor w/loader & implements. I really hope you do sell your rides Tom, you seem like a good guy, it seems Keith should feel lucky to call you a friend.............
Later
I completely understand about what you are saying about your relationship with Keith. I dare say we all know someone that we like and possibly trust that has had their integrity questioned. At no time did I take anything you said as an insult, you have approached this subject respectfully. I know for a fact that Keith lied to me about the vehicle I received from him, but, without Keith coming in to defend himself, I am keeping the details in check. It does however, involve a 1972 Vega and
a John Deere 790 4wd tractor w/loader & implements. I really hope you do sell your rides Tom, you seem like a good guy, it seems Keith should feel lucky to call you a friend.............
Later