Thanks Russ. I am still undecided. I found a place in Joliet IL called Sasser Custom exhaust that does mandrel bent tube$$$$, but it's still within reason. The place I usually go to does affordable quality stuff but only has 3" tubing and 3" Flowmaster single chambers in stock. The collectors are definetly out though. The race fuel fumes are to much and I don't want the family puchin in the interior. I have to get the fumes routed from underneath to either the side or squeeze them between the meats in the back. I've just been waiting for the salt and snow to end to take the car to get the work done.