Cynthia you may have opened a can of worms when you put this post up. All you can do is sit back now an watch.Short story - after Brett Bowers was draging me along for around 7 months tell me I am about to ship your engine one more week two more weeks an everthing in-between. I don't have alot of time for nonsense but I was going to have to go see this man face to face 5 or 6 states away. But my wife being the good woman that she is said why dont I call some friends that I know that has two ways of extracting money. So after Brett had a talk with these good men he chose to write me a check so they could put it in the mail. And after that the wife and I lived happily everafter. So really the moral of the story is dont gamble with people if you dont plan on hitting the jackpot. You will have to read some between the lines. Well I will have to say try doing it the right way but if its not possible I think with 8 grandchildren you have some wisdom. Also you may make these boys famous as my wife did with Brett. After the money was back in the bank if you get my drifts. Wesley