I wouldn't buy from gorilla1 if i were you
 

gorilla1 had an Edelbrock SY1 manifold listed for sale (http://www.racingjunk.com/Intake/240...mokey-ram.html) I bought it as it was advertised as perfect condition. I gave him $600 shipped because I wanted a perfect manifold.

When i received it is was far from perfect. The first thing i noticed is that it was missing the water neck that was pictured with it, no big deal. Then I removed the top cover and found poorly cut pieces of sheet metal screwed in the runners of the manifold. I know why they are there (fuel puddling), I had another SY1 manifold that I sold (for $300) to buy this one. I sold my other one because I wanted one that did not have rib's epoxied in (like mine did). I also dont think that it is a good idea to have machine screws in the intake runners.

I contacted the seller (gorilla1), and told him about my concerns. He messaged me back and told me to "just send the damn thing back". At this point I have already sold my other SY1 and need the manifold. So I emailed him back and explained that I was more than willing to pay $600 for a "perfect" SY1 manifold, but I would not pay that much for this one. I asked him to simply refund me $100 and I would have the manifold fixed (weld the screw holes).

Well I have not heard back from him and it has been 5 days now.

I would just warn you that I wouldn't take his word that something is perfect. Obviously he has a different idea of perfect.

I sent him a message let's see if he respond's :!: :!:


Mark

I think that your offer to keep the manifold for a $100 refund was very reasonable and cooperative on your part.

Here is his responce to me :!: :!:


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From:

gorilla1

To:

mopar1968

Date:

2012-02-13 17:09:00



Subject:

Re: Edelbrock SY1 - Smokey ram



Re:

Ad #2400477 - Edelbrock SY1 - Smokey ram




Thanks for the headsup. Never had a problem till now. Sold an absolutely perfect manifold, came down on the price and shipped it on my dime. It had a little piece of metal screwed in the plenum, must have been for better flow. Guy said I was dishonest, I offered him his money back and he refused. He wants $100 back from me for a 1/8" hole in the plenum that doesn't affect anything and can't be seen. I'd be a bit aprehensive about dealing with the guy, he wants the world from you. Thanks again, Mike

On [2012-02-12 23:10:34] mopar1968 wrote:
> You are listed as a scammer in the forum section! You might want to answer it. This could hurt your future sales.

Mark

good thing it didnt have a scratch on the outside

I paid him $600 shipped for the manifold. He had was asking for $600 (http://www.racingjunk.com/Intake/240...mokey-ram.html). Only thing I got from him was $16 in shipping.

And it was 3 pieces of metal screwed in to the plenum with 6 screws. I paid $600 for a perfect manifold that wasnt perfect. It should have been a $400 manifold not $600. Look on ebay a guy just tried to sell one that had correct epoxied runners and he couldn't sell it.

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r...r/6212637f.jpg
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r...r/66231677.jpg
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r...r/72c33204.jpg
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r...r/89fcd924.jpg

That looks cheezy!

DID THE GUY OFFER YOU YOUR MONEY BACK?????

IF SO AND YOU REFUSED IT THEN IN MY OPINION YOU HAVE NOT ONE THING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT !!! :oops:


IF HE DID NOT THEN THAT IS A DIFFERENT STORY THEN YOU ARE PRESENTING HERE ON THE FORUM :? :shock:

Just my two cents. I am not going to remark anymore on the money/business portion of this deal because,honestly,it's none of my business. I will say that any manifold that has been modified should be advertised as such.But,those pieces of metal MAY have proven to be very beneficial to the operating of that manifold. I am not a big fan of screws inside an intake either. Are those pieces of metal aluminum? If so,instead of paying a welder to fill those holes,i would consider having those pieces welded in place permanently. Just a thought. Good luck.

The very easy fix would be to pull the metal and the screws out and replace the screws with short set screws locktited in. The manifold will then work as cast and the only person that will know will be the person who installed the manifold.

Just my 2 cents.

Zip.

Re: I wouldn't buy from gorilla1 if i were you
 

$100 to weld the holes . why would you do that ? still would be a modified manifold .

the mods .. did it make it a Prefect WORKING intake ?

you said he told you to send it back . you didnt , so whats your real problem

If seller offered a full refund and you refused then you need to take this out of the scammer section period. He tried to do the right thing.

agreed

get your money back and start over

Now heres one for sale, $395
Its on another website so if you want the info PM me
http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/5225/img4936z.jpg
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/8005/img4934l.jpg

Way to help Harb. Good solution, nice intake, maybe seller will take 350?? Either way... way to resolve.

I wanted to see if he would give me $100 back and if not i wanted to send it back and he did not respond. I sent him another message and still nothing. I already got it taken care of. It is like buying a car that is supposed to be numbers matching and then finding out the motor has been re-stamped.

WOW--IN THE LAST 3 DAYS YOU GOT THAT HORRIBLE MESS OF A DESTROYED INTAKE FIXED TO YOUR STANDARDS :? ---DID IT COSTS $100 TO HAVE IT WELDED UP//CAN WE SEE A PICTURE OF THE REPAIRED INTAKE???

JUST CURIOUS -- :shock:

when told to send it back , thats whats done . there no other deal but sending it back . Boxed up and sent within a few days .

I see it , you own it now .

I just got ask this....You said in your first post you saw a picture of the intake...

Did you "not look" at the picture of this intake before buying it?

here is the pic from the ad, just the one shot...

http://s3.racingjunk.com/ui/7/08/243...Smokey-ram.jpg

and in the pic YOU CAN SEE THE BRACKET BOLTED TO THE FLOOR AREA OF THE MANIFOLD !!!!!! :shock: 8)

The $100 was not a price to fix it, it was simply a split of the difference between what I paid for it and what I think it is worth modified.

I did see a picture of it. It was not very big and I asked if the manifold had any damage. I was told no it was in perfect condition. I obviously have a different idea of what perfect is. I guess if you pay top dollar for a fully restored rare car and you later findout that there is 3 cans of bondo on the rear quarter panel you should just be happy. It looks perfect right, who cares whats under the paint!

Also, in the photo there is a water neck on the manifold. I contacted the buyer as soon as I got it that it was missing. He told me that it was not in the photo and not part of the deal. It is clearly in the photo bolted to the intake. So how am I to believe that if I send it back that I will get my money back.

did you notice the bracket in the picture when you looked at it ?? :oops:

maybe he can't see the thermostat housing in the picture!!! :?

when you paid for it you trusted him to send it -right? so--if you want your money back -have him send the money back and you be a man and send the intake back to him---problem solved. :shock:

you never really answered if he offered you a refund on the intake if you wanted to send it back ??

taken care of . That means its not returnable . you modified the intake .

something like if you buy a care and paint it a different color

MAN UP

. I know the buyer should have man up and sent it back . To late now , he mod. the intake since he had it