my Huntsville engine blew up, then they ducked my calls!
 

huntsville engine is terrible. my $25,000.00 engine blew up after very few passes. that's bad enough but whats worse is they kept ducking my phone calls. i regret owning anything huntsville engine builds

Re: my Huntsville engine blew up, then they ducked my calls!
 

you are talking to the wrong person there must be. very good engine company that sponsors some good races. They have a lot of good motors out there, talk to Todd Ewing.

i agree with hammertime every time i call over there i talk to Todd Ewing and he's been great to deal with

huntsville engine sucks
 

then something is very different now at Huntsville engine. as the economy gets worse, the more the truth of a company comes out.
as far as todd ewing, he offered the most preposterous excuses as to why a young engine would blow up. then he was always unavailable for my calls, not unlike an ostrich.
i have had great success with other engine companies since leaving huntsville engine forever.

Re: huntsville engine sucks
 

Please Explain what happened to the motor to cause it to break ?

Todd is a good guy and I am sure they arent ducking calls. I've been down this road with a new motor, they are race motors if they break they break. Schmidt is the only motor shop I know that offers a warranty. There is way to many what if's for a motor shop to redo a motor that broke, unless it broke on the dyno.

Hammertime SAID: "Todd is a good guy and I am sure they arent ducking calls"

in your attempt to defend huntsville engine you have not considered the possibility that when i called huntsville engine each and every time using my name and asking for todd, they put me on hold and came back to the phone claiming he was not available so i immediately called back and used a different name and only then did todd pick up the phone.
avoiding a customer phone calls is not the sign of a good guy and a reputable engine shop.

ive never heard of nothing like this from huntsville ive used them forever and never have any issues and they are racer freindly i think u need to call todd again and figure this out im sure if u would go about right then he will help u , they way u bashing him i doubt he will even help

Maybe they are then ..

I'll ask again what broke on the motor and how many passes are on it ?

I'll also add again motors do NOT come with a warranty just how it is.

And avoiding to answer questions or provide details about your situation sure is not helping your cause at all, either.


SP... Fact or Fiction??? No Facts so far.

ANOTHER POSTER WITHOUT -ANY FACTS LISTED--- :oops: :oops: -------EXPLAIN THE DEAL/ DAMAGE/ THE REASON YOU THINK THIS HAPPENED!!!!!!!!!THEIR ARE GUYS ON HERE THAT CAN AND WILL HELP YOU IF THEY FEEL YOU HAVE BEEN WRONGED :P :P -BUT-THEY WILL NOT AND CAN NOT DO ANYTHING WITHOUT THE FACTS TO CHECK OUT :evil: :evil: :evil: -NO FACTS NO HELP 8) 8)
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Hey Guys have you thought that this man (fastfaster) may be telling you the truth here ?

i do not think there has been enough information shared here for any opinions to be formed for either side...i agree someone's past history dictates what they might do in the future ( huntsvilles good past reputation)..but its far from Fool proof they cannot drop the ball..

i am just playing the devils advocate here so that all sides gets fair shake.

those of you that know Todd as well as you say..then you may want to give him a call and tell him to post his side of the story.
now fastfaster if you want to argue your case on here you need to tell us what happened to your engine , for all we know Todd could be avoiding your calls for a reason, to the tune of maybe he has told you its not their problem you didn't put oil in it or something of that nature...

again just playing devils advocate...we need more info here guys .

i can remember something simliar to this situation posted a few weeks back and the accused engine builder started posting invoices etc..and as far as i am concerned he shut the books on that tall tale...

Brian

I agree brian, BUT there is a reason he is not answering the question, of how many run's and what happened to it!!! :? :?

I also was only trying to find out the details, thats why I asked if he had talked to Todd and what actually happened to the motor and the amount of passes it had on it when it broke ?

yeah i know hammer..its just stinking right now if no-one can anti up any more information on the subject..

i will now say the orginatter of this post has been told...i rest my case 8)

Still no one antis up any info :?:

Re: huntsville engine sucks
 

How long ago was this?

Like Hammer said, Engines fail and there's not many if any that warranty a race engine, I've ran stuff that should have never ran as fast as it did for as long as it did/Never failed, And Iv'e ran stuff with overkill components that you'd think would last and was junk in less then a 100 runs.
Even "IF" a engine builder warrants there engines component failure is excluded, I can mention one very faimiliar engine builder who's engine didn't even make a pass/rocker-arm broke in it & debris went through motor eating up the crank,so-on, Customer was told to call the manufacturer of the rockers (Crane golds) they sent him a two new sets of Crane rockers, He purchased two of these engines (540's) at the sametime so Crane gave him two new sets as they just made a Improvement on them going to a larger fulcrum, In other words they new they posed a problem, I have no problem mentioning Cranes name as it was total B.S. how they handled this matter :twisted:
Owner never Installed the One 540, Had the other one fixed and sold both of them as he was not too happy with the engine builder neither even though it was not there fault, Engine builder can only be at fault by throwing a engine together with wrong clearances,poor machining,Improper torqueing,etc. eveything else (maintenace is up to owner) Part failure has nothing to do with a engine builder regardless of runtime.
On a sidenote I'll never run Crane rockers nor roller lifters, Samething happened with a friends 427, freshened his 4 season old engine with Crane solid rollers after having no issues with his Huggins lifters, Warming engine up to break it in,Lifter broke taking out the cam and engine needing tore down for removle of debris.
I myself have also had 2 Crane solid flat tappets fail within the last 5yrs. one during break-in the other after 3 weekends of racing, I've run Bullet,Comp,Lunati and not one single issue to date.

Failure
 

I had a TCI tranmission fail on it's fourth pass. I called TCI and they said they couldn't be sure that I hadn't blown the engine and took out the transmission. They said I could ship it back and if it wasn't my fault they'd repair it free, but I'd have to pay the shipping. I had a local builder check it and he said it was the front pump. Said it was just a defective part, the outer gear broke into three pieces. Repaired it and I never had another problem. I will never buy another transmission from them again though because of the attitude they presented. They were sure that I had installed it wrong or blew the engine and took out the tranny. Even though it was not their problem because the part must have been cracked from the start. Otherwise it is a good tranny, customer service is just as important as a good product.

i hear ya and agree with a-lot with what your saying mostly pertaining to the warranty part of it....not trying to divert the thread ( cause i do not think either party is gonna post up ) so here goes

i just want to let you know i broke A Lifter this past March, wiped out block and camshaft,pushrod....(saved rockers)......Just to let you know the lifters were Lunati as well as the cam.

so..i don't buy in 100% cranes stuff is bad..and i am real sure if we somehow could hear from every person that has a lifter or rocker arm failure i am sure the other brands would have their time in the hat as well.i Know many racers including myself that run Crane Golds and/or Crane lifters with no issues..

Hey is all made of Metal. its High performance, and all of it can and will break.

of course like most peoples post this is only My opinion
based around my personal experience :D
Brian

i think everybody is getting off the beatin path here, it would be nice if fastfaster would get on here and say his peace, not choosing sides here but i don't like the part of the call ducking by huntsville engines,sounds lame to me,then again i don't know the whole story...my 02 :wink:

I hear ya Ferringo and thats normally some Real good advise your giving. (seriously).But until fastfaster post some detailed information we have (all) ask him to do..or a REP from Hunstville Engines gets on here and tells their Side.The THREAD is DEAD and in IMO not worth speaking about any longer..so we might as well talk about something useful. :roll:

But One more time i will request that fastfaster get back on here and give some details ( or retract his statement) or someone who Knows Todd From Hunstville call him and tell him to get on here and tell his side...

If anyone can get one or the other accomplished that would be Great..

otherwise i have some Broke Lunati lifters for sale if anyone wants them. :D

Lunati
 

HOW MUCH? ARE THEY SHOW QUALITY?

I would buy your broke Lunati lifters, but I already have some. Mine hit the block and broke 5 lifters before it ever went to the track. Way to go engine builder... I never saw a penny on that even though he was clearly to blame...

I want to feel bad for this guy, but I just dont have enough details to do that...

Re: Lunati
 

LOL...ABSOLUTLEY !..I show them to everyone that comes to my place... :shock: :D

You know i really don't understand some of these idiot's, A race engine builder that put's a warranty on a race engine is just asking for trouble to my knowledge no builder, engine tran's etc, put's a warranty on them, because of the abuse, Mister/Madam if you think a builder should have a warranty then you might consider getting out of racing.



MY TWO CENT'S WORTH!!!!!!

Couldnt agree more

Steve Schmidt did put a warranty on his motors 1 year. Not sure if he still does .. just to many what ifs or lack of maitenace on motors.

If you look into detail on those warrenties, most are a insurance policy, that a seperate company writes for said company, and, there are stipulations a mile long. Plus, it only covers a percentage of the original purchase price. For exapmple, the policy will cover up to say $4000 or $6000. If they can FIX your engine for that much, as long as the claim is approved, then your good to go. If not, then, there is gray area, and it would be up to the engine shop to eat any additional money involved. And trust me, YOU the customer, are paying for this warrenty/insurance policy. Not the shop.

I think to many guys think that warrenty means, I can beat the living death out of my new engine, and, if it blows up, I call up said engine shop, and they say, " Oh shoot, you broke her huh? Ok, we will ship you a new one, have a nice day". NOT. Most times, its simply a meaningless, worthless empty promise, used as a marketing ploy, to get you to go to them, instead of somewhere else. One of the biggest jokes in engine warrenties, is the GM crate engine warrenty. Good luck getting anything out of them.

AMEN BRUTHAS...

Fastfaster... what is up? no DETAILS...plead your case man. The longer you avoid the question, the more you look like your trying to hide something. There is something missing here... did you spin a bearing? What HAPPEND????

why is the whole story not being told here? what happened to the motor?

Just a Thought
 

If I were going to guess; I'd say that the Engine Company and the Complainer had a little offline chat, and neither wants to have anything else said.

Thats what typically seems to go on with suddenly dropped threads; or at least those that started like this one.

What might we deduce? Perhaps some shared blame.

Later,

Scorp

FASTFASTER is just mad.he is a newbe hear,has not replied in 24 days and never said why the motor broke. :roll: :roll: :roll:

BUT----IF YOU CAN NOT GIVE THE FACTS AND WHOLE STORY THEN DO NOT COME HERE AND SPREAD -WHAT COULD BE CONSIDERED LIES ABOUT SOMEONE :evil: :evil:

ALL WE WANT ARE THE FACTS AND TRUE SIDES OF THE STORY SO WE MIGHT HELP OUT SOMEONE ELSE AND MAYBE GET SOMETHING SOLVED 8) 8)
ALSO AN ANSWER BACK ON ???? ASKED WOULD SHOW SOME RESPECT FOR THIS FORUM :roll: :roll:
WAS THAT TOO STRONG GUYS :? :shock: OH WELL
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My shop handles problems on a case by case basis. as an example if we dyno an engine and the customer is satisfied with it,but comes back a week or two later with a burned piston because of a plugged fuel filter,poor fuel etc we always repair the engine at cost. same thing if a rocker or valve spring breaks. we do this because we value our customers and know that the good word doesn't spread as fast as the bad word.
An example of the worst case scenario,last year we built an all aluminum circle track engine using our normal top of the line components the rods were made from 300M with ARP 2000 bolts which we hadn't had any problems with.
The engine ran great on the dyno but kicked a rod out of the pan during its first race. when we disassembled the engine it was obvious one of the 2000 bolts had broken because other than being bent the bearings were perfect. In this case we chose to 100% warranty the engine.ARP sent a form letter [as the rod manufacture said they would] stating that there was no problem with the rod bolt,that my engine assembly guy didn't stretch the bolt far enough.They sent me a complete new set of 2000 bolts and we replaced all of them. this time I stretched the rod bolts and had my assembly guy and the engine owner watching.
After assembly the engine went on the dyno and on the third pull kicked out another rod.same exact problem and full warranty #2
Engine went together the next time with Custom age 325 bolts for an additional $400.00 and is still running today.
The two engines cost me over $8000.00 ea to warranty but in the
time from then to now that customer has referred 11 other racers to me in addition to bringing me his other two engines to rebuild.
Bottom line is most reputable engine builders that I know will go out of there way to help a customer if something breaks because its the rite thing to do and in the long run will pay back big benefits. Bill

WELL SAID-BILL 8) 8) 8)
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I bet faster faster blew the engine up cause of his own damn fault. That's why he fell off the thread. Start shit and didn't finish.

I think you are right ''undertaker'' what it sounds like to me''





''JUST MY TWO CENTS WORTH''

Always sucks to hear about someone breaking anything(other than records) but that's just the nature of the beast! Personally i've always been a bit skeptical of crate engines from these companies such as Huntsville cause like most "mass" production companies quantity is usually more important than quality. Not saying they haven't built any "good" engines, just nothing great! Truth be told I haven't seen ANYTHING from Huntsville(or any company like them for that matter) that's REALLY worth anything. The stuff you get from people like Huntsville MIGHT be "OK" for a bracket car but too me bracket racing isn't racing. To be honest unless the engine builders initials are LGF, R/M, B.Jenks., JK, BAE, or SP chances are YOU'VE GOT A PILE OF SH*T!

Jeeeeeez. Nice first post!! Which one of these big time engine builders do you work for? Only 6 people in the world know how to build engines that are quality and nearly bulletproof? Really, have another cup of joe, an extra doughnut while you consider editing your post to something believable.
BTW, I doubt Nyes, Murray, Hendrens and all the other "top notch" builders will forgive your silly slip of the tongue. Just my thoughts this morning, as I drink my coffee and eat my doughnuts.

Also, to all you bracket racers- maybe you should move on up since fivestageford let you know that "bracket racing isn't racing".

Another BTW, if you are who I think you are fivestarford, I wouldn't start questionong ANYONES credibility. :oops:

well said holloway,another thought ;someone that can't catch a light, drive the big end or has never bracket raced almost always talks crap. jmo

Rudy Rudy he is a bench racer :!: :!: He need's to put his own money in a car and try it before putting it down :!: :!: :lol: :lol: :lol: