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bjuice 11-02-2008 03:09 PM

MY PAR 565ci BREATHS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Well Boys i fired up the Ole 565ci in the 67 camaro this evening....

Dang Boys that thing CHIRPS as much as my old 632ci......i was really shocked to hear that little 565ci Chirp like that.....You can hear it (Chirp) even more than my 632ci because of the Dyno Max Mufflers i put on the collectors....

Sounds nothing like the 511ci that came out of the car......the only thing that is different on this 565ci is its 15:1 instead of 12:1 ( maybe this is it)
i also have a 4/7 swap cam instead of my 722/722 lunati and of course there is 53 more cubic inches?
My 511ci had No Chirp to it at all. :roll:

so it has to be one of these 3 factors that caused the Chirp to come on out..
( i luv it !)


hope she runs like she sounds.... :D

michael1 11-02-2008 03:34 PM

What kind of power does it make? You need to put a video on here.

hammertime 11-02-2008 04:10 PM

cam gives her the chirp :D

bjuice 11-02-2008 04:12 PM

1,000 hp..could have made 1050hp if i went the bigger Oval Port head.

i spoke to Par about a little bigger head and he advised me that although the 2.35 oval port head would make about 50 more HP it would not have as much TQ as the smaller BB2X head i used on this combination..

Plus where do you Draw the line ?...Here is the way my BRAIN works..If i am Going to spend another $4,500 to $5,000 on oval Port bb3x ( or larger conventional heads) matching intake,new valve train ...i just as soon add to it and go with a set of Big chiefs or some other exotic head...and there i go again.. :( ........so when do you say when?

I had to think long and hard on this when i had the 565ci put together..cause i am the kind of person that is either IN or Out...LOL :)

sort of like a Junkie....if i don't show over the top constraint up front..i could get down right crazy with a Engine Build...Plus i am anal as Hell.

Plus that 300 shot i am going to hit it with will make it do what i want.

Here is a Video of my camaro with the 511ci on Alcohol last year...after you watch this it will give you an idea how different the 565 sounds when i post a new vid.

http://www.parraceengines.com/


PAR Race Engines owner Scott Duggins has been building championship winning racing engines since 1990. A 4-time IHRA World Champion himself, Duggins and PAR Race Engines have built engines for numerous other NHRA and IHRA champions such as Anthony Bertozzi, Steve Furr, Dave Elrod, Troy Williams JR., Gilmer Hinshaw and many others as well as providing machine shop services for 2007 IHRA Pro Mod Champion Scott Cannon, JR and class pioneer Ed Hoover. PAR also supplies the horsepower for the nations qiuckest and fastest Nitrous Powerglide doorslammers, Kerry Crosby with the 1/8th mile record at 4.09 @ 180MPH and 1/4 mile record holder Jeremy Creasman with a 6.44 @ 215MPH.

PAR Race Engines is full service engine and machine shop that offers "Custom" racing engines (not catalog style "crate" engines) ranging from 400cid to 800cid. We custom build each engine to your needs. Due to the fact that we Race what we build, we can privide a complete combination including the correct transmission and torque converter for your application. PAR also offers custom multi-stage nitrous plumbing using our own "in house" design nitrous components.













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bjuice 11-02-2008 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by hammertime
cam gives her the chirp :D

valves overlapping or something?...i am not exagerating..when i say its Chirping..its Freaking Chirping !

michael1 11-02-2008 04:22 PM

How much torque with the 565? What does your 632 make?

hammertime 11-02-2008 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by bjuice

Originally Posted by hammertime
cam gives her the chirp :D

valves overlapping or something?...i am not exagerating..when i say its Chirping..its Freaking Chirping !

Correct, some motors have a big chirp others dont usually all in the cam profile.

bjuice 11-02-2008 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by michael1
How much torque with the 565? What does your 632 make?

My 632ci made 1200hp and 900 TQ..this with 12 degree Big chief heads,sheet metal intake pair of 1200 dominaters..( now it was a NOS cam..it could have made more hp with another cam )

my 565ci also makes 870 ft lbs of TQ with one 1050 dominater and conventional heads 2.30/1.88 ..454r intake..( both have had extensive port work done to them)

check out PAR racing engines..Scott Duggins ( owner) He is no joke he is also a 4 time IHRA world champion..he has several wallys on his wall..

also see a short list of names on his web-site of who he builds engines for

he knows his stuff.

hammertime 11-02-2008 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by bjuice


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4.09@180 whoa !! think record is now 4.07











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Tod74 11-02-2008 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by bjuice

Originally Posted by hammertime
cam gives her the chirp :D

valves overlapping or something?...i am not exagerating..when i say its Chirping..its Freaking Chirping !

\
MAYBE YOU SUCKED A BIRD DOWN IN IT AND HE IS SCREAMING FOR HELP...LOL

ashtrak 11-03-2008 02:39 AM

Brian Did you use some of the parts off of the olde 511 when he built this

Tod74 11-03-2008 06:12 AM

I have never been able to get someone to say for sure what causes that sound...there was a thread on speedtalk about the cause, but no definite answer

LuckyDawgRacing 11-03-2008 12:25 PM

I run alky inj. big blocks had that problem last summer, took the engine apart and found the 4 inside piston domes (cyl. 3,4,5,6) had started touching the brand new bb2x chambers. the chambers were straight from brodix. I laid back the edge of the chamber to give clearance and never had any more trouble

LuckyDawgRacing 11-03-2008 12:27 PM

Oh yeah, I had heard chirping also!Chirp..........Chirp.............Chirp

topsportsman1 11-03-2008 12:48 PM

Hehehehe now thats a ground pounder.

Its all in the valve adjustments :P

bjuice 11-03-2008 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by ashtrak
Brian Did you use some of the parts off of the olde 511 when he built this

i used my Callies Stealth Crank ( had it magged), also used my same heads and intake 454r ( Tons of hand port work)..the rest is Brand new. (block,rods.pistons,cam ( custom 4/7 swap)

also the Chirp is the HUGE CI ENGINE CHIRP..not a mechanical failure Chirp...un Mis-stakable !

I have Heard several of PARS 565ci's at our local tracks..and they had a mean sounding chirp..for some reason i just wasn't expecting mine to sound this way..My bad i guess.......But i like it... :D

lively 11-03-2008 05:46 PM

ISN'T COMPRESSION NICE!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

bjuice 11-03-2008 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by lively
ISN'T COMPRESSION NICE!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

OH YES !..unless its a disc in your back ! :shock:

zipper06 11-03-2008 10:05 PM

Dumb Ass Question
 
Just a Dumb ass question???? how comes the ProStockers don't have the Chirp.


Zip.

ashtrak 11-04-2008 02:45 AM

Hey Brian are the tracks too cold for any test and tunes for you or do we have to wait till next year for a run. If so I sure hope you get a vid on here so we can here that :evil: chirp errrrrrrrrr... :wink:

bjuice 11-04-2008 03:48 AM

Re: Dumb Ass Question
 

Originally Posted by zipper06
Just a Dumb ass question???? how comes the ProStockers don't have the Chirp.


Zip.


What Question are you saying is Dumb Zip ? i know i did not ask a question :?: :roll:

also i have heard some pro-stockers Chirp more than others.Just this past year i spent a lot of time in Greg Anderson's Pitt area..he has all kind of Crickets (Chirps) in the 500ci prostock motor of his and for the record [prostock motors are nasty but not considered Huge in the cubic inch arena)


so i am not quite following what you meant here Zip...sorry my friend.


Brian

Tod74 11-04-2008 04:29 AM

I believe he was refering to HIS question...the question about the pro stocks not chirp'n.

suicidebomb 11-04-2008 04:52 AM

Daaaayuuuum, Brian, Didja get us all T-shirts? :)

zipper06 11-04-2008 08:05 AM

Re: Dumb Ass Question
 

Originally Posted by bjuice

Originally Posted by zipper06
Just a Dumb ass question???? how comes the ProStockers don't have the Chirp.


Zip.


What Question are you saying is Dumb Zip ? i know i did not ask a question :?: :roll:

also i have heard some pro-stockers Chirp more than others.Just this past year i spent a lot of time in Greg Anderson's Pitt area..he has all kind of Crickets (Chirps) in the 500ci prostock motor of his and for the record [prostock motors are nasty but not considered Huge in the cubic inch arena)


so i am not quite following what you meant here Zip...sorry my friend.


Brian

I wasn't questioning your engine chirpping, i was just asking the difference of why most ProStock engines donot chirp, and i do realize the limit of 500" in prostock :?

Zip.

michael1 11-04-2008 08:12 AM

I sure hope I have enough cam to make mine chirp. That sound is so awesome.Good luck Brian I hope that thing flies.Call me when you get a chance. Thanks,Michael

bjuice 11-04-2008 04:38 PM

Re: Dumb Ass Question
 

Originally Posted by zipper06

Originally Posted by bjuice

Originally Posted by zipper06
Just a Dumb ass question???? how comes the ProStockers don't have the Chirp.


Zip.


What Question are you saying is Dumb Zip ? i know i did not ask a question :?: :roll:

also i have heard some pro-stockers Chirp more than others.Just this past year i spent a lot of time in Greg Anderson's Pitt area..he has all kind of Crickets (Chirps) in the 500ci prostock motor of his and for the record [prostock motors are nasty but not considered Huge in the cubic inch arena)


so i am not quite following what you meant here Zip...sorry my friend.


Brian

I wasn't questioning your engine chirpping, i was just asking the difference of why most ProStock engines donot chirp, and i do realize the limit of 500" in prostock :?

Zip.

ok my bad...i am just a dumb Hillbilly..some things i dont get...sorry..I read the post wrong....still took reading it 15 times to understand it after tod pointed it out..

Zip no offense you got more knoweldge of this sport than i and 4 others have....

nothing but respect for ya Brother man...please accept my apology..



Hell maybe i got a spun Bearing...lol ?...

Yeah i got a tee shirt for ya suicide 8)


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