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knova70 08-17-2007 05:58 PM

Can't wait to do the same!

tommynos 08-17-2007 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by knova70
My small block puts out 1586hp at 25% overdriven,it is a 436 SBC in a 3200lb backhalf nova,it is getting a all aluminum 400SBC as we speak with the same components as the 436 and this one is gonna be faster,I will be able to turn this one 50%over on alcohol and not worry,I had a bigblock and it went to a new owner,it was a good boat anchor,Small blocks rule!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i love this post :lol: a girl on my forum has a 9.3 second ls1,now putting in a new motor to run 8s....

tommynos 08-18-2007 05:07 AM

truthfully ive never had a big block,or really even been in a car with a built one...my friend local here makes some fast ones,so i definatly want to try one out,but even if i liked it i couldnt afford to change,and see no need in my situation as im not after crazy HP....but i will drive one of his cars,just to see....

ken0069 08-18-2007 07:12 AM

I went for some shake down runs on my new SBC a couple of weeks ago. It was interesting to see some guys come look at it with the hood off and first thing you'd notice was their jaw drop! "That's a small block", to which I replied "Yup, anyone can make a big motor run!" This was after some off the trailer 5.61 @ 126 passes in a full chassis door car.

But all BS aside, I built what I wanted and I just didn't want a BBC. I owned a 482BBC in a dragster a few years back and it ran 5.00s @ 137. Put my new SBC in that same car and I'll bet it would go as quick or quicker than that BBC did.

Bottom line is what's best for me may not be what's best for the next guy. I've been an SBC guy all my life and at age 62 that's not likely to change now. Besides, I do enjoy having ppl come by in the pits and make comments like "That's an SBC?" :wink:

spib 08-18-2007 08:04 AM

ken instead of telling them its a 434 do you ever say , ya its a lil 327 runs good doesnt it!!!!!

bjuice 08-18-2007 09:54 AM

Congrats on your run Ken..off the trailer that is very impressive ET..heck its impressive for a dialed in Run..i think i know you well enough to say i think we will see some low 30's out of that small block before its said and done..besides there is 2 tenths in the bank with some fall air around the corner...
Awesome Job Ken.....

Brian

woodsman 08-18-2007 05:47 PM

Well all BIG BLOCK owners looks like we won this hands down but to all the small block owners you were always just right there under us. I would just like to say there's a lot of really good stuff in this thread and worth reading it all again.

nemesisracing 08-18-2007 06:21 PM

Big Block
 
Well gang, I had to cast my ballot as well! I voted BIG block because "There is no replacement for displacement"!!!!!!!!!!

Don't get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with a small block, but my new Mustang has a 4.6 litre which is technically a 281 cubic inch engine.
Well, my Mustang is a STREET car and my 67 Firebird that is equipped with a 468 BBC engine is a RACE car. Ya'll kinda see a little difference here? HA HA!

All joking aside, I have seen some small blocks that would really run it's just what the actual owner prefers as to what works best for you.
Mike

knova70 08-18-2007 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by woodsman
Well all BIG BLOCK owners looks like we won this hands down but to all the small block owners you were always just right there under us. I would just like to say there's a lot of really good stuff in this thread and worth reading it all again.

Looks like 51% to the SMALL BLOCKS! You better put on them glasses?

tommynos 08-19-2007 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by knova70

Originally Posted by woodsman
Well all BIG BLOCK owners looks like we won this hands down but to all the small block owners you were always just right there under us. I would just like to say there's a lot of really good stuff in this thread and worth reading it all again.

Looks like 51% to the SMALL BLOCKS! You better put on them glasses?

alot of really smart people on this forum is all i can say..they know who their daddy is :lol: SBC...

camaro74454 08-19-2007 07:33 PM

Zip it tommy........Yes alot of know how here... I think that some of the big block guys are sleeping...and even if there are more small block guys...We'll still spank on ya mod for mod.

tommynos 08-21-2007 12:52 PM

well i linked this topic to the camaro forum,so we may have some more votes coming in....this has alot of info on both and should be a sticky,imo...

Racefab57 08-21-2007 04:37 PM

All I can say is SMALL BLOCKS RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! david.

Bubstr 08-21-2007 06:30 PM

I'd like to vote for both. Different horses for different courses.

A circle track, where cubic inches are limited by rules or traction and less weight is worth it's weight in horsepower, Small blocks do rule. Where you have no cubic inch limitations, Big blocks come into their own.

I think the reason we have these debates is us car guys think with our hearts instead of our minds. That's why there are Chevy guys, Ford guys, Mopar guys, and now even Import guys.

My heart still says put a Hemi in everything.

woodsman 08-21-2007 06:42 PM


Originally Posted by Bubstr
I'd like to vote for both. Different horses for different courses.

A circle track, where cubic inches are limited by rules or traction and less weight is worth it's weight in horsepower, Small blocks do rule. Where you have no cubic inch limitations, Big blocks come into their own.

I think the reason we have these debates is us car guys think with our hearts instead of our minds. That's why there are Chevy guys, Ford guys, Mopar guys, and now even Import guys.

My heart still says put a Hemi in everything.

What size Hemi is that you are talking about in CID.

tommynos 08-21-2007 06:58 PM


Originally Posted by Bubstr
I'd like to vote for both. Different horses for different courses.

A circle track, where cubic inches are limited by rules or traction and less weight is worth it's weight in horsepower, Small blocks do rule. Where you have no cubic inch limitations, Big blocks come into their own.

I think the reason we have these debates is us car guys think with our hearts instead of our minds. That's why there are Chevy guys, Ford guys, Mopar guys, and now even Import guys.

My heart still says put a Hemi in everything.

i like your sig,getting old aint to bad, just think, you can hide your own easter eggs and youll never have to watch a re-run again!

cepx111 08-21-2007 11:41 PM

Dead even at 25 each.
Dam, wish I could vote again....lol
They only count votes twice in my city.
Cp

chevguy65 08-22-2007 04:20 AM


Originally Posted by tommynos

Originally Posted by Bubstr
I'd like to vote for both. Different horses for different courses.

A circle track, where cubic inches are limited by rules or traction and less weight is worth it's weight in horsepower, Small blocks do rule. Where you have no cubic inch limitations, Big blocks come into their own.

I think the reason we have these debates is us car guys think with our hearts instead of our minds. That's why there are Chevy guys, Ford guys, Mopar guys, and now even Import guys.

My heart still says put a Hemi in everything.

i like your sig,getting old aint to bad, just think, you can hide your own easter eggs and youll never have to watch a re-run again!


LOL Tommy.....I haven't seen a re-run in years

camaro74454 08-23-2007 10:36 AM

Man...we need more big block guys...like fast.

topsportsman1 08-23-2007 12:28 PM

I know of atleast 6 guys that haven't voted yet,of coarse I am one of them, :P :P :P And the others are BBC guys and real fast :P Get the pic?

The difference between the men and the boys......is the size of their toys :P

bjuice 08-23-2007 03:56 PM

in other words can you say 'S-L-E-E-P-E-R"...can you say "B-E-E-N H-A-D"....can you say you really know what the back side of your behind really looks like....well guess what comes next...LOL......WHAT RULES ??..

come on small block's...you better throw the NITRO TO IT.....

LOL.... 8)

Brian

strokercamaro 08-23-2007 05:38 PM

Big Block is the only way to fly, lost my password and just now found it.
How do I cast my vote?
Greg

tommynos 08-23-2007 05:45 PM


Originally Posted by strokercamaro
Big Block is the only way to fly, lost my password and just now found it.
How do I cast my vote?
Greg

its easy just click the box next to small block and then vote now and that leads you into the voting area...

topsportsman1 08-23-2007 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by strokercamaro
Big Block is the only way to fly, lost my password and just now found it.
How do I cast my vote?
Greg

At the top of the page Greg,there are two choices, :P well one really,thanks man

Tom

strokercamaro 08-23-2007 05:55 PM

I see the poll, but no where to click.LOL :?:

topsportsman1 08-23-2007 05:58 PM

hmmmm maybe I'll go in and take a look,maybe the time ran out,check back I'll see if I can fix it back up

How about now Greg? It was set for 8 day,it will now be never ending poll,Have fun,hope it works,come on you guys with the big blocks,vote up

Tom

*EDIT*

strokercamaro 08-23-2007 06:00 PM

Thanks Tom. :D

tommynos 08-23-2007 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by strokercamaro
I see the poll, but no where to click.LOL :?:

ahh dont worry about it,go chech out some of those other interesting post,you see the new 4x4 waverunner?...no need to cast your vote :lol:
http://www.break.com/index/awesome-4x4-waverunner.html

topsportsman1 08-23-2007 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by strokercamaro
Thanks Tom. :D

Try it now :P :P :P

Tom

camaro74454 08-23-2007 06:08 PM

I thought bjuice was pushin for the big blocks?.........But I see how the small blocks win some, by cheatin....Tommy.

bjuice 08-23-2007 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by camaro74454
I thought bjuice was pushin for the big blocks?.........But I see how the small blocks win some, by cheatin....Tommy.


ooohhhh i am Big block all the way...my response was a reply to my man Tom's post.....Tom is holding one in the hole on the SBC gUYS..

RE-READ IT

LOL..

brian

strokercamaro 08-23-2007 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by topsportsman1

Originally Posted by strokercamaro
Thanks Tom. :D

Try it now :P :P :P

Tom

Worked like a charm.
Thanks guys

topsportsman1 08-23-2007 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by strokercamaro

Originally Posted by topsportsman1

Originally Posted by strokercamaro
Thanks Tom. :D

Try it now :P :P :P

Tom

Worked like a charm.
Thanks guys


This is when the BBC shine,,,On The Top End :P

camaro74454 08-24-2007 03:38 AM


Originally Posted by bjuice

Originally Posted by camaro74454
I thought bjuice was pushin for the big blocks?.........But I see how the small blocks win some, by cheatin....Tommy.


ooohhhh i am Big block all the way...my response was a reply to my man Tom's post.....Tom is holding one in the hole on the SBC gUYS..

RE-READ IT

LOL..

brian

Ok, I got confused for a sec, We're back on top they shouldn't be able to catch us.

tommynos 08-24-2007 11:35 AM

im just guessing here :D but im thinking by the end of the day small blocks will have surpassed you BB guys...real bad :twisted: (looks under sleaves),and (pulls rabbit from hat)

camaro74454 08-24-2007 07:17 PM

Well in the end..we know that the big blocks lost to the small block guy cheatin.

topsportsman1 08-24-2007 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by camaro74454
Well in the end..we know that the big blocks lost to the small block guy cheatin.

HUH?? I haven't even voted yet,along with 6 others that come on here???

Don't get your undies in a wad now,the IP tracker is workin fine :P :P :P

Bubstr 08-24-2007 10:31 PM


Originally Posted by woodsman

Originally Posted by Bubstr
I'd like to vote for both. Different horses for different courses.

A circle track, where cubic inches are limited by rules or traction and less weight is worth it's weight in horsepower, Small blocks do rule. Where you have no cubic inch limitations, Big blocks come into their own.

I think the reason we have these debates is us car guys think with our hearts instead of our minds. That's why there are Chevy guys, Ford guys, Mopar guys, and now even Import guys.

My heart still says put a Hemi in everything.

What size Hemi is that you are talking about in CID.

Ran three sizes, 354, 392 and 426, but the 426 was the money maker if you ran gas.

doubler 08-24-2007 10:54 PM

Okay, I didn't want to get pulled into this but I since the Big Blocks are losing I will cast a vote for BBC.

I remember I had build up a pretty good 350 for my 69 chevelle, and I bought a 67 SS 396 Chevelle not to long after I got the 69 done. My buddy drove my small block car home and I drove my "new" 396 home and outran what I thougt was a pretty decent small block. THe 396 was a bone stock 325hp motor. It was close but the 396 was faster. I was a BBC guy after that. I spent a fair amount building the 350 and then a bone stock 396 was faster? That was all I needed!

Anyways,, I think its the torque that impresses everyone that drives a BBC. And I think that torque is what makes up for the rpms. I had a friend that had a high winding small block and yes he ran fast but at 10000+ rpm. It was a 5spd car and it was wicked low 10 second car. I ran high tens and low 11's with not much of a 427 we built for the chevelle and it didn't have the chassis that he did or transmission at that time.

If Size doesn't matter then why are all the small blocks trying to be big blocks these days? Why not just run a 350 or smaller and call it good? A 454 small block? Not very small...these big inch small blocks are impressive though. It all comes down to what you like, and what your budget allows. I think you can get there easier with the BBC. I like them both, just have been a BBC guy for a long time.

Peace out...

camaro74454 08-25-2007 03:52 AM


Originally Posted by topsportsman1

Originally Posted by camaro74454
Well in the end..we know that the big blocks lost to the small block guy cheatin.

HUH?? I haven't even voted yet,along with 6 others that come on here???

Don't get your undies in a wad now,the IP tracker is workin fine :P :P :P

Hahaha, I'm just bustin Tommy's chops some. I'm tryin to convert him. And a little brain washin...But thats hard to do when you can't find it.


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