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DRTRCR22 12-28-2010 05:07 AM


Originally Posted by hink

Originally Posted by elephantrider1
only thing is money!!!! I can get a stock block for around $3-400. Dart blocks are $2300


A Dart SHP block all machined is 1795.00

Then putting the 400 crank on the shelf and buying a new 350 mains crank is at least another $600 for a good one, then taking the rotating assembly in for rebalancing is another $400 or so, so now we are up to what...? $2795.00 ... whatever... you get what you pay for, pay up now or pay up dearly later...? How comfortable do you feel with your luck ...?

TheYellaBrick 12-28-2010 10:23 AM


Speed and reliability cost money......don't got the dough, ya can't go"Savin' my nickels, savin' my dimes so I can go and buy that 409"
:D :D

dragonmaster093 12-28-2010 11:03 AM

i have to agree saving nickels to spend dollars sooner then later doesnt make sence

DRTRCR22 12-28-2010 05:28 PM

heres a gm 400 block for ya on elbows up...

http://www.elbowsup.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=34613

rodentinfest 01-09-2011 03:42 AM

Re: welding up a 400
 

Originally Posted by elephantrider1
ok so i ran my 400 lean and ended up with about a 1/8 to 1/4 deep groove between the #3 and #5 cylinder on the block and head.Many people have been telling me i can have this welded and it will be fine.It is bored 40 over already so more boring after welding is not a option.Is it possible to sleeve a siemese bore engine?

there are some pretty good welders out there for sure. this is the key. if the welder can repair the void, you will then have to have it decked, then you will need to plate hone the one side, then a good hot wash. so lets say you spend $75.00 to weld the block, you can clean it up with a die grinder and tootsie roll yourself, take it back to the machine shop and have them deck the one side lightly, you have 100.00 in that then a good plate hone costing from 75.00-150.00. so all in all, your most likely going to spend a little more if it needs a sleeve. installing a sleeve in the block will be another 100.00 i have seen people weld stock blocks and you never would know it.

you could just spring for one of those chinese blocks that is 10 times better than a stock gm casting for under 1000.00 bare and spend 795.00 to race prep it i would take it to a machine shop and get the answer there and not here. if he says he can fix it and he will stand behind it, you choose then. your budget is what you are working with, not someone else.

hink 01-09-2011 04:58 AM

Re: welding up a 400
 

Originally Posted by rodentinfest

Originally Posted by elephantrider1
ok so i ran my 400 lean and ended up with about a 1/8 to 1/4 deep groove between the #3 and #5 cylinder on the block and head.Many people have been telling me i can have this welded and it will be fine.It is bored 40 over already so more boring after welding is not a option.Is it possible to sleeve a siemese bore engine?

there are some pretty good welders out there for sure. this is the key. if the welder can repair the void, you will then have to have it decked, then you will need to plate hone the one side, then a good hot wash. so lets say you spend $75.00 to weld the block, you can clean it up with a die grinder and tootsie roll yourself, take it back to the machine shop and have them deck the one side lightly, you have 100.00 in that then a good plate hone costing from 75.00-150.00. so all in all, your most likely going to spend a little more if it needs a sleeve. installing a sleeve in the block will be another 100.00 i have seen people weld stock blocks and you never would know it.

you could just spring for one of those chinese blocks that is 10 times better than a stock gm casting for under 1000.00 bare and spend 795.00 to race prep it i would take it to a machine shop and get the answer there and not here. if he says he can fix it and he will stand behind it, you choose then. your budget is what you are working with, not someone else.

Those chinese blocks are junk have one brinell tested as they are only about 107 compared to an SHP or stock block that is 190 JUNK JUNK JUNK

cepx111 01-09-2011 11:43 AM

I seen that one coming...lol

SABOT7 01-26-2011 12:41 PM

Look up Rays crack repair in Hodgensville, KY. He uses a cold repair process that doesn't distort the block from heat and requires very little decking afterward. (270) 358-0932, Ray Shepherd.


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